So. You Think You Can Punctuate? The 19th Century in One (Very Long) Sentence)

I DID scroll to the bottom. But I also thought perhaps I should copy and paste it into another document, to see if I could re-punctuate it for my own reading pleasure and comprehension. Then I talked myself out of it.

Posted by Deborah at April 13, 2010 3:09 PM

I confess. I scrolled down, too. And almost wore out the wheeel on my mouse.
I know I am also guilty (occasionally) of using commas very freely.
But gee whiz, y'all, this guy has to be admired. After all, it is not easy to eccentric in this day and age.

Posted by Catmoves at April 13, 2010 3:14 PM

Ayup, that's one very long sentence.

Now, who wants to diagram it?

Anyone? Mr. Opsasnik? Anyone? Anyone?

[/Ferris Bueller's Day Off]

Posted by Hale Adams at April 13, 2010 3:36 PM

Yes, I'm not ashamed to say I scrolled. Once the eyes start glazing over, down I go.

For all the litany of complaints, it seems that even in the nineteenth century, mankind was mankind.

Posted by Julie at April 13, 2010 3:47 PM

Puseyism, ... Two-Seedism, Psychopannychism...

I agree! Damn it, but I do hate puseyists, Two-seedists, and those miserable good for nothing Psychopannychists. They just piss me off to no end.
(especially the Two-seedists)

JWM

Posted by jwm at April 13, 2010 4:15 PM

Wow... what a critique of the nineteeth century. If he were alive today, I wonder what the length of the sentence would be for the 20th century.

Hmmm... I'd hate tomeet him in a flame war on the web. I'm guessing he'd be like this guy:

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/kungfumaster.htm

Posted by cond0010 at April 13, 2010 4:23 PM

He's the anti-Twitter!

Posted by Joan of Argghh! at April 13, 2010 5:26 PM

Other than the foregoing, he has no opinion about it.

Posted by Morgan K Freeberg at April 13, 2010 6:06 PM

I adore long complex sentences and have been quietly proud of some of my own. All gone now, alas; it is apparent I am but a teetering baby unable even to comprehend the marathon works of her betters. Drat you, Gerard, for this enlightenment!

Posted by Raincityjazz at April 13, 2010 6:58 PM

Tell you what, it was a dark and stormy night when this motherfucker sat down to deliver his thoughts.

Nineteenth century style and all, though (and the egregious level of typographical error aside,) he pretty much nailed it, didn't he?

Posted by Rob De Witt at April 13, 2010 6:59 PM

You funny guy De Witt.

Posted by vanderleun at April 13, 2010 7:11 PM

Okay, I'm bowdlerbastardifying this, but hell's bells....let us digress:

My lieges, and madames, to expostulate obstreperously
What majesty should be, what duty is, nay, the obligation of obligesses obladee or obladah, oblige me, for a hey nonny nonny nanosecond, while I palaver the point in excessive blatherful verbiscosity.
What day is day, night night, it rained all night the day I left, the weather it was dry, and time is time, which keeps on ticking ticking ticking, into the future,
Were nothing but to waste night, day, and time; which I previously mentioned in great length heretofore, and therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief. You, Gerard, are mad.

Posted by Jewel at April 13, 2010 7:53 PM

But if I hadn't scrolled to the bottom, I wouldn't have found this near the bottom:

ITnspiritualism

They had IT guys back then? And they had a religion?

Posted by shoreacres at April 13, 2010 8:01 PM

Dear Mr. Vanderleun: In an effort to raise the tone of this discussion, which has gotten much too facetious, I have emailed this sentence to Jon Favreau Look for the level of The One's speeches to follow soon.

Your welcome.

Sincerely yours,
Gregory Koster

Posted by Gregory Koster at April 13, 2010 8:32 PM

To wit:
Jesus wept.

Posted by Jewel at April 13, 2010 8:33 PM

Yes, I scrolled...and laughed when I read Gregory Koster's comments. I had the same thought, and will be looking forward to another 17 minute speech at the next q&a, only this time it will be only one sentence. Now to go back and try to read this...darn you Gerard.

Posted by LJones at April 13, 2010 10:32 PM

Yep.

Posted by Daniel at April 14, 2010 3:37 AM

Scrolled down, then back up and kind of sort of read it. I started to think it started in the nineteenth and ended up in the twenty first.

Posted by Becky at April 14, 2010 5:00 AM

I would have finished scrolling all the way to the bottom but the wheel on my mouse overheated.

Posted by Brian J. at April 14, 2010 10:08 AM

Lots of typos as you got further on. I liked "Koman Catholicism" and "Ultramontauism". I was also fond of "the Mother of Got!" and "poirer" for power. :)

On the whole, it's a very shrewd review of the 19th century, although I would dispute a good many individual points in it.

Posted by Maureen at April 15, 2010 1:18 PM

The typos arise from Google Book Scanning translating into misconstrued characters not from the book itself.

Posted by vanderleun at April 15, 2010 2:04 PM

Uh ... no [strike]comma[/strike] comment. Heck, I've done entire blog posts in twenty-five words or less. Much to the gratitude of whoever blundered across my site on their way to soup recipes I imagine.

if you squint you can see the intended formatting.

Posted by chasmatic at September 7, 2013 10:44 AM

That's one criticism my writing gets, and its a somewhat valid point. My style is somewhat old, I'm the anti-Elmore Leonard. I tend to have complex, nested sentences with multiple concepts pulled together into a single idea stated in a single sentence. These days that's a bit challenging for some folks to read, particularly younger ones.

Posted by Christopher Taylor at September 7, 2013 11:54 AM

Christopher,
You been reading any John Owen lately? My wife can tell when I'm doing so because even my spoken sentences get longer.

Posted by Cris at September 7, 2013 12:05 PM

One of Gabriel Garcia Marquez' books is constructed with a single sentence for each chapter. I don't remember which one and I have given away my collection.

Posted by Charles at September 7, 2013 4:01 PM

Yeah John Owen was the king of gigantic sentences, all those puritans were. Takes some reading but boy can they pack a lot in a small space. Every time I read those guys I feel like an idiot, such a poor education compared to what they got.

Posted by Christopher Taylor at September 7, 2013 5:42 PM

I can't brain enough for that in 1 day

Posted by Cletus Socrates at September 7, 2013 6:32 PM

"Be lucid, but spare me the details" ~ Joseph Conrad

Posted by chasmatic at September 8, 2013 7:38 PM

Nope.
Read it all.
Most enjoyable.
Although I disagreed with parts, i.e. love the Sallies, were they really eccentric, profane and delusional?
Thank you, Gerard, for the Google Book scan info.
And a very heart-felt thank you for this post.
I'm sending it to our pastor, a real verse by verse, no nonsense, no editorialising, old school teacher of the Word- he's sure to (if he hasn't already) enjoy Pastor Hassell.
To Hale Adams's query, who else but The Comma Queen?
And Joan of Argghh (many thanks for your work) anti-Twitter, yes, however an age when people could reasonably expect others to listen, ponder and thoughtfully respond.
Not like now, during the End Times.

Posted by DavidB at March 7, 2016 10:50 AM

We...these despised and calumniated servants of the Most High God. My new favorite.

Posted by John the River at March 7, 2016 2:28 PM

Blows Proust out of the water!

Read the whole lot. Does it count as Lenten Penance?

As I chugged through it, started to wonder when he would get to Mormonism and other artefacts of the Second Great Awakening (Seventh Day Adventism, etc.)... I hoped in vain to be able to Gotcha the man, but he slapped them both down footnote-like in the peroration of isms. (Millerism == more or less Seventh Day Adventism as much as I care to care).

Looking back with the benefit of hindsight, I'd throw in the Jewish Enlightenment and Emancipation, German Philology, and Renan.


Posted by Kinch at March 7, 2016 6:20 PM