Come sir, we're dealing with those who know no shame. There is no bigger left wing dick in the Congress than Weiner. If he's hanged for a slice instead of a loaf, so much the better. In any other walk of life, the man would have quickly resigned, and skulked away. At least we won't have to see pictures of him standing next to Barney Frank anymore.
It's not the target, it's the targeting.
Government officials shouldn't be on the internet like this. They shouldn't be indulging in "social media." As far as I'm concerned, as long as my tax dollars pay the salaries of these people, their lives are mine, 24/7. That means no "fun" like sexting and sending pictures of your bulging mansack to anyone. Weiner needs to resign in disgrace and possibly enter a monastery. Before that he should pay back out of his bank account all the tax money that went into it from his "salary," if he has any left from buying cases of K-Y. If not then he should work a real job with all his wages garnished until he pays the taxpayer back, and then enter the monastery.
That being said, I really haven't followed any of this crap, because picky, obsessive questions about did-he-or-didn't-he-and-how-many-inches-were-bulging etc. bore me to high heaven. Of course this is deliberately designed to do so, and as usual conservatives are falling into the mess instead of cutting to the chase as I did above. I call it the Clinton effect. The result of all the outrage about Clinton and Monica, the blue dress, the trial or inquisition or whatever it was, just ended up boring everyone to death, and had the unsalubrious effect of making people feel sorry for Clinton. From what I'm seeing so far Weiner doesn't seem to be getting the same sympathetic response, but that's because he seems to be an arrogant asshole. However, Americans can feel sorry for anyone given enough chance. It's already starting.
I'm no prude, but all I have to say is "ew" Just "ew". And that applies across the board wherever this guy is concerned. Then again, all Democrats have that effect on me. I agree, the reporting was sophmoric, especially with the bad fortune of his name (as if the guy wasn't repulsive enough just looking at him now I have the image of those chicken legs of his.. ew!) and it certainly is being played as a "had this been a Republican" moment. But since Weiner is a Democrat, I'm stuck with "ew" indefinitely. Enough already. No more reports on Weiner's weiner. I hope he is prosecuted and fades into Democrats Behaving Badly history (or should we brace for his 2016 run for the White House? Ew!)
correction: reporting was sophomoric - what will be interesting are the jokes that rise above the obvious. Now that would be an interesting take on this story that even I would enjoy.
Another day, another turd. It's a job without end, but you've still got to flush now an then.
I read a survival piece before reading this. It began thusly: ""Outside" has the story of elite marathoners attempting to run down an antelope to verify a belief that men could run down the fastest animals on the planet. What the runners are really proving is how brain-dead stupid people can be. If ancient hunters had frivolously wasted energy simply running down a wild animal, we wouldn't be here."
Anyway, you're a good man Gerard.
"What will these heroes of truth, justice and the American way have achieved from all their thrashing about in an onanistic daisy chain? The future of the republic will not be changed one whit."
Taking down (metaphorically speaking) one particularly rabid SOB Democrat would indeed change the Republic one whit - for the better. We (moreso you great conservative bloggers) are NOT the politicians. We/you do what you can within the limitations of your work/field. It seems the "all or nothing" thinking expressed sort of resembles the Nirvana Fallacy.
Unlikely since, in this particular district, the rabid one in question would be replaced by Rabids #2, 3, 4, etc.
And we're not working with Nirvana here. But we do have to learn when to quit handling feces.
Ah, but the impossibly delicious real and possible headlines that can be spun from this fiasco are simply worth a slightly foul whiff of sewer gas. Slug-lines like "Barney Frank Demands Weiner Probe" and "Weiner Girl Denies Link to Member of Congress" surely will never, ever come along in our lifetimes again. We must savor the comic serendipity of reading about how "Weiner Claims He Is Getting Shaft, Dem. Congressmen Stand Behind Him" and "Weiner Picture Too Small to Investigate." Please, supply your own entry for best headline of Weinergate. I like "Liberals Irritated By Weiner Probe."
No, sir. You're trying to circumcize the limits of political debate. This will not stand.
Then I guess I shall just have to screw my courage to the sticking post and carry on!
Since when is it a crime to pole your constituents?
Frankly, It's fun to watch the twitter machine engorge itself as the Weiner is hoist with his own petard.
Until recently conservatives have been elevating the dickscourse to our country's fall.
I-Right-I said it, VanderLeun:
Giving this (Weiner's) behavior a "pass" only emboldens such [already beyond the pale] conduct on the Left.
While I agree with you that there has to be a measured cost-vs-gain, you need to take your wins where you can. Even considering "what District" or "what replacement" there may be, one needs to also take into account the value of THE ACCOUNTABILITY of removing such as Weiner.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
I am completely at peace with the notion that Republicans, and especially conservatives, should resign when they behave very poorly, and that Democrats should never resign for despicable behavior.
But there's no real win here. It's lose-lose. Beyond a thrill going up the leg at the taking of a scalp nothing will be gained. Nothing. If there's a replacement it will be the same sort of creature who will vote the same way.
This is the 9th of New York which has gone Gore 67% Kerry 56% Obama 55%. Weiner's continued career is irrelevant to the political makeup of the house. The 9th is not vulnerable.
Then there's the question of how, absent resignation, he can be removed. There will be no recall election in the 9th.
There may be chortling and crowing, but the wave will roll on unchanged.
First, some background:
Some years ago, on a rainy night in Rancho Bernardo, I was invited to dinner with a formerly famous blogger to dine with a couple of his friends. On the way in, I nearly ran over, well, you. Though you likely have little memory of the night, I remember well sitting back and soaking in the wisdom of you, Scott, and Meryl over chinese food.
Unbeknown to me at the time, we shared a former employer. I was a bodyguard - officially an events associate tasked with the security of the models at sponsored events - for Penthouse magazine for a brief period, and got to know a number of the executives who lived a life both full and shallow at the same time.
I can't say that my 23 year old self was changed by the experience, but my mid-30s self continues to pull lessons out of the memories, looking back and seeing just how...common it is for a man - married, powerful, wealthy, vulnerable - to risk it all for nothing more than the prospect of a fantastical night.
I say that because I find the whole affair - much like those of Foley, Ensign, Frank, Hart, etc - being a case of men who profess to be our betters proving that they have been corrupted. Their names are now shattered, the ambitions limited, and it is up to their consitutents to decide if they are the best representatives of themselves.
The focus on this particular Weiner do hold perils. By trying to kill off Weiner, conservatives are validating all the efforts to kill of any GOPer who shows any sign of being less than morally perfect. Barney Frank alone proves that the Democrats will always ride out scandal, but the conservative attempt to use this will only serve to set the standard for their own future political crucifiction.
The attention paid to the latest Weiner is, as you say, only an effort to kill the public life of a Congressman who, at most, will one day make it to Senate - a pretty even exchange considering the current holders of the NY seats.
Beyond that it's a mere distraction. Republicans are tarred by the pecadilloes of a single member (maybe a little pun intended) (that too could be a pun). This 'scandal' is tarring... what, Brooklyn?'
The fact is, there are other, bigger, more damaging to both the public and private lives of the citizens or this country going on while the MSM produces yet another distraction.
I just learned via American Digest that next month is honoring who you prefer to shtupp month. Next in line are the vegans, the Earth Firsters, and the communists.
This is far more damaging to the America ideal than yet another congressman showing off just how little he really has to offer.
The fact is, there are other, bigger,...
Weiner begs to disagree.
"I confess, without shame, I am sick and tired of fighting—its glory is all moonshine; even success the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies, with the anguish and lamentations of distant families, appealing to me for sons, husbands and fathers ... tis only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation." W.T. Sherman
Yet when in the thick of it he waged total warfare that broke the back of the Confederacy. We be in a war now-not sure total warfare is not called for.
You're right, it is a Two Minute Hate fest. Where The Party insisted on participation, we do it of our own free will and much like The Party, there are always people paying attention to it's usefulness.
Back to basics: Proper retort...
Not so much fun when what you have done to others out of unkindness it’s done to you in righteousness.