Comments: “Pour encourager les autres” Burning Man in California. This time for real
I told everyone I know that whomever they had in the cabin was going to get Wacoed, and I was right. "Law Enforcement" is a gang, and like any gang they cannot bear to lose face. Anyone who dares kill a cop or makes them look like fools (especially in a high-profile way) is going to be made an example of, and to hell with a fair trial.
SLA 1974. MOVE 1985. Waco 1993. Dorner 2013. Next?
Posted by B Lewis at February 13, 2013 1:36 PM
He killed four people so I'm surprised that anyone would have sympathy for this guy. Well, I expect the left to support him, cuz they are a bunch of idiots. The MOVE bombings and Waco aren't comparable, they hadn't killed anyone. Maybe the timeline should be SLA 1974 Dorner 2013 Next.. another homicidal manic.
Posted by Maksim at February 13, 2013 6:16 PM
"Wacoed"? Is that really the word that fits? The comparison is a bit superficial, isn't it? Because while I got all good and libertarianated* about Waco, I needle on my giveashitometer doesn't even move when I point it at Dorner. Time to get a new one, I guess.
*Libertarianate - to immerse oneself for periods of time in libertarian, small government, Constitutionalist feelings when the cops empty their magazines, with not much consequence, at something they know damned well they shouldn't have. It's sort of like marinating, if it were actually a word. As in, "He's been libertarianating himself in front of the computer or the TV all week since the SWAT team raided that wrong house and opened up on a dachshund with MP-5's while the kids watched."
Posted by Mike James at February 13, 2013 6:38 PM
I don't give a shit about Dorner per se. He was a White-hating racist and a loser, and good riddance.
I do give a shit about due process. There's not much room for the rights of the accused when he's burning to death in a flaming house surrounded by cops.
Dorner deserved a fair trial. So did the victims at Waco. That's the only thing they have in common: they were both denied due process of law.
If the police can just torch anyone they like, there's not much point in calling this a society of laws any more. The next person to get the "judge, jury, and executioner" treatment from the cops might be you or me.
Posted by B Lewis at February 13, 2013 10:16 PM
B Lewis, unfortunately this sites demographic is big government statist republicans. There are plenty of times they don't seem to mind the loss of freedom or abuses of the constitution.
"COOL! they burned him alive heh heh FIRE! FIRE!" -Bevis the big government republican statist.
Posted by Todd E Oh at February 14, 2013 8:48 AM
I-RIGHT-I: Internet Tough Guy
Posted by B Lewis at February 14, 2013 9:18 AM
'Charred' in this example means 'not incinerated'.
ID's in leather wallets tend to survive well; those in plastic wallets, not so much. An inside pocket or under an arm also works.
Don't ask me how I know about this: I don't like to think much on that particular job I had...
Posted by ed in texas at February 14, 2013 9:35 AM
So Ed in Texas, what you are saying is----we should carry our "identification" inside a leather wallet (perhaps inside a leather messenger bag or leather purse as added protection) to make identifying our remains easier? (Perish the thought.)
Posted by DHH at February 14, 2013 10:48 AM
What I'm saying is charred is 'charred'. In a case of, say, a body recovered from a vehicle accident, is 'charred', meaning hair burned away, exposed skin surface burnt, but under clothing (which is also 'charred') is found to have undamaged skin. Wallets are usually carried in a way to protect them, and frequently survive a flash fire. If you want certain identification, do what the military does, stamp your name and ss# on a stainless steel tag and wear it around your neck (called 'dog tags'). Or you can go one further, and do like combat engineers and EOD techs the world 'round do... get a dozen dog tags made and sew them into every pocket, your pants cuffs, and into your boot laces. So if you're blown into pieces at least they know which pieces go together.
I wish I was kidding with all this.
Posted by ed in texas at February 14, 2013 12:17 PM
Bill, What makes you think he didn't? Right, Alex Jones told you. How do we know anything is true? You take all the available info, weed out the likely not credible, and make a reasonable assumption. I stand by my assumption.
Dorner had a choice to exit the cabin and get his due process, instead he elected to stay in a burning building. Hell, he had many opportunities in the days before to surrender, his death was of his own making.
Todd, Generally speaking Conservatives support the Rule Of Law, doing so doesn't make one a "big government statist".
Posted by Makism at February 15, 2013 2:31 PM