Comments: Wargame out the Second Civil War [Bumped]

This is a good 'un Gerard. Worth the read, at least until just after the Declaration of Independence section.

Ain't no spoon-fed and feather-pillowed about this one.

Posted by chasmatic at April 18, 2014 5:35 PM

HOLY SHEEYAT

This needs to go viral.

Posted by Doug at April 18, 2014 9:39 PM

Things keep going the way they are now and its going to get very, very ugly. For now, the distractions and amusements of the internet and cell phones are keeping people calm and under control but for how long? And what if something happened to that?

Posted by Christopher Taylor at April 18, 2014 10:43 PM

Chris: the low info masses will need their bread and circuses so if the satellites crash or get turned off they will become restless. The techies and all the oh so clever student types will be rendered helpless without a gadget in their hands.
Old farts like me will still know how to do the times tables and read books made out of trees. I am already thinking and living as if no electricity and I avoid crowds, essential for my well-being.

Hopefully if/when the crash comes the wretched masses will mob up and consume each other. I don't anticipate me and the missus will miss many meals.

Posted by chasmatic at April 19, 2014 3:08 AM

Keep your eye on prices, this is where the rubber hits the road. I watch this shit close and it's disturbing because it is the silent virus that eventually kills. Food prices and quality are going thru the moon, right now. You better pay attention to this stuff and get a Plan B, and C, D and E too, in action ASAP. If you can't afford food what do you do? You steal it. Who do you steal it from? The source that is easiest, the stores. Stores will crack down. ID cards will be required. More security will be hired. Robberies will escalate, home invasions too. Hungry people are violent animals. Lock and load gentlemen.

If you live in urbania you are doomed, if you live in suburbania you have a slightly better chance but not much. The closer you are to people the closer you are to the most violent animals on the planet. Everybody gets to ride their own custom made rocket sled to hell.

Posted by ghostsniper at April 19, 2014 4:19 AM

Black hole sun won't you come. Coincidentally happen to be reading Cormac McCarthy's The Road. Sure-as -hell picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue. But then again, it's the third day of the Sacred Triduum, and my Redeemer lives. If only I could say the same for a country I once knew and loved, and now seems intent upon committing suicide.

Posted by Richard at April 19, 2014 9:31 AM

Damn, Gerard.

Every now and then, I run across something on the intertunnel that doesn't just speak to me, but it looks straight into my heart and SCREAMS at me: "You know this is the truth. You've known it for a long time."

And it leaves me looking at the guy in the mirror and asking, "OK, sport. Now what're you going to do?"

Posted by azlibertarian at April 19, 2014 9:36 AM

If you have money in the back, kiss that good by. If you have currency tough, that will be next to worthless. The Gummint will close the banks, issue script; that shuts off the underground economy. Metals, ammo, liquor are negotiables. Better have some, hell more than some.

Then we'll find out if the anarchists really like their ideas of a free society.

Posted by Vermont Woodchuck at April 19, 2014 9:55 AM

While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer.
God bless America,
Land that I love,
Stand beside her, and guide her
Through the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home
God bless America, My home sweet home.

And not knowing the difference between dross and treasure the mob, due to its abysmal ignorance, contemptible cupidity, and sheer number chose the former.

Posted by Richard at April 19, 2014 9:59 AM

I went back and read the article again. I personally think it's a good article but not anecdotal as the author states. That having been said, the content and message are valid.

Woodchuck: You're correct about the money and 401Ks and other "paper wealth". When the banking system crashes or is torpedoed the only currency of value will be precious metals like gold and silver and barter goods like bags of wheat or boxes of 22lr. I spent 44 years in the Electrical business so my skills can be bartered for things I need.

One big problem is keeping what you have. As ghost pointed out, there will be mobs and riots and bands of roaming marauders. Within a community there will also be informants, chickenshit cowards that will rat people out.

Here's the big question: which will be a worse threat, the looters or the government?

Posted by chasmatic at April 19, 2014 11:50 AM

"Chris: the low info masses will need their bread and circuses so if the satellites crash or get turned off they will become restless."

Restless? No, they would go berserk. Rioting in the streets, and mass rebellion would be the result. If I was Tom Clancy, I'd already have a book on the way with that as the central premise.

Posted by Christopher Taylor at April 19, 2014 11:54 AM

Chris, that's what I meant but I understated it. It will be interesting to watch the mobs turn on each other. There probably already are informers in many of the freedom groups. I was taught that In a cell of ten one is a rat. iron-clad.

In the meantime: conduct yourselves this way:

Moscow Rules
via the International Spy Museum

Assume nothing.
Never go against your gut.
Everyone is potentially under opposition control.
Don't look back; you are never completely alone.
Go with the flow, blend in.
Vary your pattern and stay within your cover.
Lull them into a sense of complacency.
Don't harass the opposition.
Pick the time and place for action.
Keep your options open.

Posted by chasmatic at April 19, 2014 5:18 PM

@chas, the worst threat is the most immediate threat. Disregard the idea of gov't employees when in the absence of gov't, which is now and always. Gov't protection is an illusion that will cost many their lives. Back to the threat quotient. All people, especially those that sit across from you at the breakfast table, must be held in the highest order of scrutiny in perpetuity. The closer they are to you the more dangerous the threat. You don't know a man unless you've been through hell with him. I'm using the term man generically.

Posted by ghostsniper at April 19, 2014 8:37 PM

Ghost: In a successful fascist state (and I believe our socialism enforced by state agencies has many characteristics of fascism) the people police themselves and each other. History records many cases in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union where children turned their parents in for violating rules.

Just as there will be workers in government agencies that are against the party line and its implementation so there will be members of militias and freedom groups that line up with the ruling government. Spies, informers, rats, all will betray there fellows for the thirty pieces of silver. I am not a joiner. I believe that any cell with more than three members can and will be compromised, mostly on purpose but also by a slip of the tongue. Effective rebel groups must have a system of cut-outs and phrases that will confirm or deny the truth of the members and use them all the time. Dead-front mail drops, backup plans, all the tradecraft we learn from the better spy novels for that matter, means of signaling like a thumbtack in a door frame, &c. Complacency and trust will buy an early grave.

Posted by chasmatic at April 20, 2014 4:24 PM

The difference between the "Brave New World" style of tyranny and the "1984" style is that while most dictatorships are based on fear, the BNW one is based on distraction and entertainment.

So instead of informants, fear of persecution, and concern over government surveillance, the tyrant relies on distraction and internal corruption of the individual. In other words, he doesn't need informants, he just needs people who are having too much fun and care too little to rebel.

Posted by Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2014 8:45 AM

Anyone who does not see that the USA is now a Fascist police state is either ignorant or stupid. When "local" police/sheriffs are seen wearing flack vests in a community as small as I live in, something is "up" folks.

Yes the ONE has his private army. There is obviously an "action" planned. What is it? I can only guess. Study Hitler, Lenin, Stalin and Mao for hints.

Posted by Terry at April 21, 2014 8:50 AM

Fidarsi è bene ma non fidarsi è meglio.

To trust is good but not to trust is better.

Posted by chasmatic at April 22, 2014 12:05 AM

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