Comments: [Bumped] Methinks there cometh three horsemen of a sorry apocalypse:
Dang Fred. On the button again. The summer cesspool of discontent per 0gayma and Co. as described...
Posted by JoeDaddy at August 16, 2014 8:02 PM
I don't see why the country wouldn't recover. It would recover and be stronger than ever.
Posted by Fat Man at August 16, 2014 8:21 PM
Blacks lose a race war and the county does not recover? I don't get it.
Posted by james wilson at August 16, 2014 8:22 PM
The country would not recover because the war would never end. The Marxist race-baiters would never shut up and the public square would be All Race All The Time Forever.
That's why.
Posted by Rob De Witt at August 16, 2014 9:15 PM
"The country would not recover because the war would never end. The Marxist race-baiters would never shut up and the public square would be All Race All The Time Forever." And this is different from the present, how?
Posted by james wilson at August 17, 2014 12:03 AM
Gosh, I guess Fredd didn't get to see "The Nation of Islam" desperately trying to inserting itself into a position of "authority" at the Q&A (where some folks simply wouldn't STFU) right before the midnight,...MIDNIGHT for cryin' out loud, curfew
was announced.
"Justification", "authenticity", social "justice", and such.
Posted by CaptDMO at August 17, 2014 4:41 AM
We simply need to tell all the Fergusons in this country that the Government Cheese Program is over.
Tell them they have to form their own police force, keep their taxes for their town roads and schools. One bozo asked why the police didn't shoot the looters. You have to be kidding.
Tell them if they don't want drugs get rid of the pushers, you shoot the looters, you take care of the ones disrupting your schools, you clean out the gangbangers, you clean up your parks and streets. It's your town now, all yours and you're responsible for it.
You burn down the town, you rebuild it with your own money. Whitey is out of here.
We'll see how long it takes before the race baiters and haters scream about that situation.
That ends the liberal plantation, once and for all.
Posted by Vermont Woodchuck at August 17, 2014 7:20 AM
"The country (as you know it) would not recover."
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And that may be a GOOD thing.
Rather than an out of control nation of 300 mil, better still a consortium of many smaller nations in control of themselves.
This was the original intent of the constitution but little by little the fedgov took over everything while properly managing nothing.
Rather than 50 states all under one roof called fedgov, a continent with say, 10 countries bordered to each other not unlike europe.
4 countries east of the mississip, 6 countries to the west of the mississip, and NO fedgov at all.
Posted by ghostsniper at August 17, 2014 7:22 AM
If there really was a horrific race war, the nation would recover but that blight would give generations later even more ammunition to make things even more miserable.
Posted by Christopher Taylor at August 17, 2014 10:57 AM
Well that would depend on how decisive the war was, wouldn't it. My feeling is that if it ever got started enough to catch real fire there would be some demographic groups struggling to recover.
Posted by Van der Leun at August 17, 2014 11:17 AM
Short form: A Glock's got nothing to say to a scoped deer rifle. Or a scoped AR-15 for that matter.
Posted by Van der Leun at August 17, 2014 11:18 AM
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You can get a Hi Point pistol for $200 or less. They are ugly and chunky but reliable. S&W Sigma pistol is a copy of a Glock but less expensive ($300).
Entry-level AR-15 rifles for $599-699.
Mossberg 500/Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun for $330-400.
For your first weapon, don't fret over caliber, features, or brand name. Buy one first and then decide about what you want in a second gun later. The difference between a good gun and a the wrong gun are trivial compared between the wrong gun and no gun.
If you aren't going to carry a pistol on you as you leave the house, get a shotgun first, then consider pistol or rifle later. Don't over-think this first gun, just get one. Prices are low and ammo is available.
Posted by tscottme at August 17, 2014 1:16 PM
Read his article.
" Blacks have no historical connection at all to Greece, Rome, the Old Testament Hebrews, Christianity, the Middle Ages, the Enlightenment, Industrial Revolution, to Newton, LaGrange, or Galois, to the philosophic tradition of Thales, Aquinas, Schopenhauer, or Hegel. "
Hate to tell you but other than the home-schooled, the Catholic and Jewish schools (oops, forgot the Mormons) no one else's children are being connected to them either. Remember when we let the progressives have the schools and universities?...Damn.
Federal taxes and regulations are already cutting into the muscle. Someday soon it all goes bust or someone loses it and kills a federal (agent, inspector, regulator..) and it becomes the spark that starts the killing. We have been very good boys for a very long time but I believe the merciless killers and pragmatists we came from aren't very far from the surface.
Next time, no more Mr. Nice Guy. And the country WILL recover.
Posted by Onthenorthriver at August 17, 2014 1:20 PM
Check your local sources, you may get lucky like my neighbor did last month. He bought 3 brand new Palmetto AR15's complete, never fired for $675 each. The seller was going thru some difficult financial stuff and needed the coin.
The best part? NO PAPERWORK.
Posted by ghostsniper at August 17, 2014 2:24 PM
"If there really was a horrific race war, the nation would recover but that blight would give generations later even more ammunition to make things even more miserable."
It is not a race war that is really in question. It is a civil war. The only thing that guarantees deep and permanent misery is to continue as we are.
Blacks only behave spectacularly badly because they know they can get away with it. It's a sport. When they know they can't, they won't. The feral underclass millions are not the real issue, it is their creator, the thousands of, in Jeffersons's words, "sappers and miners", of civil society which are the great destructive force. This is almost exclusively a Caucasian disease. If a civil war is to be won it will not be won by killing the creation of this ruling class, but by destroying that ruling class.
Posted by james wilson at August 17, 2014 2:27 PM
NO matter what would really happen, the depiction would always be race war. Blacks are significantly overrepresented in federal employment compared to their population percentage. They are heavily clustered in urban areas. Guess who'd be the front page story around the world? And a hundred years later, what would the story be?
Posted by Christopher Taylor at August 17, 2014 5:24 PM
And a hundred years later, what would the story be?
Well, there you go. History is written by the winners, remember?
Posted by Rob De Witt at August 17, 2014 9:14 PM
The past has been rewritten by the winners already. That is what we aim to change. The winners.
Posted by james wilson at August 17, 2014 9:28 PM
My vote is for armed confrontation. Pretty simple, us against them, and easily defined in terms of black and white.
As it is with Muslims so shall it be with Blacks. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Posted by chasmatic at August 18, 2014 4:03 AM
ghostsniper:
This was the original intent of the constitution but little by little the fedgov took over everything while properly managing nothing
No. That was the intent of the Articles of Confederation. The Constitutional (republican) government, the original one, was less minimal than that, but much smaller than what we have now, and still adhered to the basic principles that the Articles tried to protect. I'm not arguing against your premises, just correcting the record.
Posted by DonRodrigo at August 18, 2014 12:41 PM
I'm going to call you out, chasmatic.
When a vicious dog gets loose, by no means for the first time, killing it is a good option. But the dog's master is going to get another dog, it is sure to become vicious, and it too is going to get loose.
You always write of dealing with the dog, when it is our masters which must be taken out. For a long time our communist enemies were their great hope because our elite were communist, until they became the last communist. But they will use any breed of dog to get what they want. Blacks, women, Mexicans, illegals, homosexuals. You can wipe out or deport every black in America and it will only provide a respite under the illusion that you have accomplished something.
There are ways to deal with this, but even removing forty million lost souls is easier for Caucasians to imagine than dealing with our own bizarre and, apparently, unique suicidal afflictions.
You are playing their game. When you win you lose.
What form a better future might take I do not know and it is better that I assume nothing. What form a worse future takes requires no imagination because we are in it.
Tolstoy-
What an immense mass of evil must result.....from allowing men to assume the right of anticipation of what may happen.
Dietrich Bonhoffer--
Action springs not from thought, but a readiness for responsibility.
Posted by james wilson at August 18, 2014 12:54 PM
What James Wilson said. Cut off the head, rather than inflicting wounds, no matter how grievious, on the body.
Posted by DonRodrigo at August 18, 2014 1:10 PM
Money, Power, Ego-mania.
That's what's driving this feeding frenzy based in inadequate factual information.
The MSM [Mean-Spirited Media] and MSMB [Mean-Spirited Master-Baiters] NEED to feed and fan the flames of inter-racial and inter-class dislike and envy.
How about calling for boycotts of the advertisers' products; advertisers who support the already limping MSM.
Caging the MSMB, the local and the national types, requires a different approach. Maybe publicizing in the MSMBs' hometowns, how their MSMB has managed for years to live high on the hog from government and private funds diverted from those it was originally intended for. Shaming and satirizing while expressing the truth.
No matter which side of the aisle you reside on you can learn from George Carlin and Dennis Miller.
And for those sitting in the heavily carpeted aisles,
get off your piles!!
Posted by Stug Guts at August 18, 2014 4:13 PM
It occurs to me that a way to get this boycott idea rolling is through the social media, Twitter, Facebook, ... Ask your kids how to use these devices. Name names, "Do you believe you should continue to buy from the [advertiser] who's supporting the [particular MSM] racial and class hatred by misreporting and promoting ill-founded rage?" You get the idea.
For the MSMB, call for a series of national debates whose subject is "Where'd Your Money Come From." Each debate to deal with a single MSMB.
If the MSMB refuses to appear get a Dennis Miller type to play the MSMB part.
All funds remaining after paying cost of producing the debate to go to a children's research hospital, such as St. Jude Children's Research Hospital [Memphis TN].
Up your imagination! Brains and ballots before bullets. Even Jesus overturned some crooked money changers' tables and essentially kicked their butts.
Posted by Stug Guts at August 18, 2014 4:44 PM
Careful there Stugs, that social media you speak of is inhabited largely by the very type of people you are against and it will turn on you instantly.
Regarding the dog analogy above.
While I agree in theory, I can't get to the owner.
Meanwhile it is his dog that is in my yard threatening my chickens, who do I shoot?
No I don't have enough ammo but I'm working on a fix.
Onward.
Posted by ghostsniper at August 18, 2014 5:12 PM
Thanks ghostsniper, worth considering. I've just started nibbling at this 'Crowd Sourcing' means [and obligations to contributors] of raising funds.
Regarding the dog and chicken problem, maybe advise your neighbor that his dog is scaring the shit out of your chickens, and so he may find that chicken manure sprayed on his dog and his lawn. Don't get caught. Or you could invite him over for a dog steak barbecue; some dog that you found invading your property. Stay safe and mad as hell.
Posted by Stug Guts at August 18, 2014 5:54 PM
"Well, there you go. History is written by the winners, remember?"
How's that workin out for you today, Mr Zinn?
Posted by Christopher Taylor at August 18, 2014 8:02 PM
@ James Wilson: I see your POV, one I hadn't considered but the analogy over-simplifies the issues. Dogs cannot be compared to people however dangerous and destructive the dogs are. Self defense and people threatening grievous bodily harm are the dynamics of confrontations based on race riots, looting, muggings, killing raping, et al.
"... armed confrontation ..." could use a little explanation. I am not advocating KKK and Night Riders and ethnic cleansing. (Which, mind you, the Blacks favor in their "Get Whitey" mindset. There are similarities with Muslim doctrine)
I wanted to say that when one side, the "bad guys" we are seeing in Ferguson and other hot spots, act on a level of firearms and fire bombs, probably some ordnance we don't hear about, the rational response would be at their level. Cops, military, neighborhood groups, look at the Koreans, they got the message.
If I happen to be confronted by an attacker or group of attackers, these guys never seem to act alone, my training has me meet the threat at the same level it comes to me and use enough force to stop the threat.
I don't always write about Letsgo Lozko and punches in the face, so my serious writing gets a bit sloppy.
Posted by chasmatic at August 19, 2014 12:37 AM
@ James Wilson: extracting from the analogy one other concept which I will attempt to express in real terms: "... our masters which must be taken out ...".
I am not quite sure what you mean. I am not sniping or flaming, just want some clarification. By masters I think you mean our leaders and "ours" only in that they rule the country in which we live. Are we to deal with them at the ballot box, or in public forums, or talk radio, or scathing comments on blog articles?
“The people in power will not disappear voluntarily.” Burroughs
Methinks they must be dealt with in the same manner as those thugs and foot soldiers doing all the looting &c. After all, it is they who give the orders, right?
Kill the head, kill the serpent. Kill 'em both to make sure. Burn the corpses and lay waste to their croplands and pastures; salt their wells. Leave no two stones atop one another. Whoops, drifting again. Got to thinking about Muslims. The similarities make for confusion.
Posted by chasmatic at August 19, 2014 5:12 AM
The Government has successfully removed responsibility from the majority of the black community, via welfare. Uncle Sugar will take care of all the boo-boos that can happen.
Bump up against Whitey's laws, riot, the Feds will side with you. Burn down the housing, the Feds will rebuild it. No consequences for the actions. All they have to do is vote Democrat.
Now tell me why they should pay any attention to what is good for their community, the country or Whitey. They don't care about themselves to utilize all of the money spent to educate them, get them into college, give them preference of others for jobs, housing, and schooling.
The "Great Society" wasn't, Socialism is the "Big Lie" and the Blacks are the last to see the joke.
Posted by Vermont Woodchuck at August 19, 2014 7:28 AM
Ok, chasmatic, I'll take a stab.
Reform of our political system is impossible. It is doing exactly what it should be doing, and the surprise is that it took so long to do it. But a conservative is someone who is always ready to fix things. Our daughters, those who become wise, are careful not to tell us certain things because they know we will set out to fix it. Reagan, bless him, fixed us, and we got two Bush's, a Clinton, and Obama.
So, nothing can be done without catastrophic events to change, or at the minimum, put in doubt lifelong opinions. We don't know how this will come down, the artillery of disaster having surrounded us. We can have a personal plan, but more than that is self deceit and blinds us to the new shape of things even when it arrives.
Tocqueville wrote that he was surprised upon his arrival in America to see that public men were so venal. He realized that great men simply withdrew from public discussion in disgust, only to return when when events demanded it. He observed that the public had no love for men who were better than they. Great men are temporary hires. He saw that it was the system itself the Founders had set up which had far outlived them, because the entire party of which they made their mark was extinct in twelve years.
A plan for the present is as pointless as it is for an unknown future. But a great man is a prepared man, and the prepared man needs many other prepared men to understand the moment and seize it. I believe that is the best we can do.
Burke-
At the very moment when some of them seemed plunged in unfathomable abysses of disgrace and disaster, they have suddenly emerged. They have begun a new course, and opened a new reckoning; and even in the depths of their calamity, and on the very ruins of their country, have laid the foundation of a towering and durable greatness.
A common soldier, a child, a girl at the door of an inn, have changed the face of fortune, and almost of Nature.
Russell Kirk-
Are permanence and continuity impossible for modern society? Three checks upon the empire of unbridled discussion seem possible: the deliberate revival of the concept of traditional wisdom, the growth of public boredom with talk and with change itself, and the coming of catastrophes which teach men to distrust their own opinions.
Eric Hoffer-
In times of change, learners inherit the Earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists.
Owen Barfield-
If men have at last become incapable of seeing what they once saw, it is because they have gone for so long a time not looking at it.
Mallock-
Arguments are like the seed, or like the soul, as Paul conceived of it, which he compared to seed. They are not quickened unless they die. As long as they remain for us in the form of arguments they do no work. Their work begins only, after a time and in secret, when they have sunk down into the memory, and have been left to lie there; when the hostility and distrust they were regarded with dies away; when, unperceived, they melt into the mental system, and, becoming part of oneself, effect a turning round of the soul.
Tocqueville-
The more a cause seems to be abandoned, the more passionately I become attached to it.
T. S. Eliot
No cause is ever lost, because none is ever won.
Posted by james wilson at August 19, 2014 1:20 PM
Thanks James, always a pleasure reading your comments, even when I don't fully agree.
I guess I am in a paradigm of "in the trenches". I leave the sophistry and arguments for the owls.
I never was a garrison soldier and even as old as I am I will never sit on the couch contemplating. I reckon if there are enough guys like me the job will get done and a consensus will allow leaders to rise from the conglomerate.
Posted by chasmatic at August 19, 2014 9:03 PM
Both my brother and my oldest son live near feral populations (Tampa and Baltimore) and work within the reservation or around it. They too are more focused on the dogs that are loose than they are the absent dog owner. Each is far more ready than others to do a favor for a stranger of any color, but perhaps that is because they are armed.
They are less philosophic and more day to day. Their experience corrects my philosophy not infrequently. If only all philosophy were connected to experience.
Posted by james wilson at August 20, 2014 2:48 PM
James: That's the nice thing about reality though, consequences are immediate and proportional: a short'n sharp feedback, no room for dithering excuses.
The older I get, I pay more attention to the evidence and less to the arguments.
Posted by chasmatic at August 20, 2014 10:50 PM