Comments: [Bumped]
At this point I don't care about any of that! Something must be done about the rising tide of illegal immigrants invading our country. The influx is accelerating.
Illegals used to be mainly from Mexico and Central America. But now there are more flooding in from Middle Eastern Islamic countries and southern Africa.
So I don't care who Donald Trump contributed to in the past. Just about every wealthy individual gives to both sides. That isn't important now.
What is important is the fact that not one other candidate in either party is promising what Trump is:
• Control the borders! Build a wall. Keep illegals out.
• Strengthen our military. Obama has gutted it — he just slashed 40,000 from the Army. We need a strong military. (See the article on Iran's nuclear bomb plans).
• Make America Great again! It can be done. A "can-do" attitude is everything, and Trump has the attitude. He is the only one. All the others act like they're just waiting their turn to be president. They have no fire in the belly.
If America gets another Bush or Clinton, it will lead to chaos. They will not stop the horde of illegals pouring in; that will ratchet up every year. Only one candidate will stop that. Vote accordingly.
Posted by Smokey at August 23, 2015 8:13 PM
See? It's starting. Dig up any dirt no matter how small: Trump once ate a booger when he was five years old; He farted in church on several occasions; He likes the Chicago Cubs, even bought a Cubs hat.
Posted by chasmatic at August 23, 2015 9:40 PM
These aren't boogers, Chas. Trump's game is making chumps out of marks. He realized, or didn't care, that the third rail of illegal immigration wasn't. And he'll turn that position on a dime, and a dollar for sure.
The fact the Republicans and their candidates are in almost every case awful makes us hunger with every new light, but that kind of enthusiasm is the parent of illusion, and more marks. Did Obama teach us nothing?
Posted by james wilson at August 23, 2015 10:08 PM
Radio talk show host Steve Deace says it well. How mad are Republican voters with the GOP Establishment? They are so mad they are willing to support a Pro-Choice, Liberal, that hasn't said a word about religious freedom over the GOP Establishment.
Everyone detailing the 809 ways Trump isn't conservative completely miss the point of Trump's support. Adding a few dozen more ways Trump is not conservative does nothing to lessen support for him. If you really, really, really want Trump to fade away, ignore him or ask him detailed questions. Attacking him, fighting him, only increases support for Trump. Ask Gov. Perry how attacking Turmp works as a strategy.
I would speak well of Hillary Clinton if she were the only one plainly saying the truth about immigration/invasion and the corrupt bargain between Establishment GOP, DNC, and MSM hacks. Trump will eventually drop out or run 3rd Party. The RNC/GOP prefer to win, but if they can't get a Chamber of Commerce candidate to the finishline they will conspire to get the DNC candidate elected, and they might actively push Trump to a #rd Party run, since that will certainly elect a Democrat.
If everybody will just let Trump burn himself out it will likely benefit Cruz, my choice, but attacking Trump will only make him stronger. Notice the one thing the GOP Establishment won't do, with regard to Trump, is raise Trump on the immigration issue. BTW, I assume Trump IS a stalking horse for Hillary and I still want him to kick the GOP in the crotch until they say "uncle."
The GOP is a tear-down project, and anybody that is useful in knocking down the decrepit shell of the GOP is applauded by me. Trump can be useful in tearing down the 80-95% of the GOP that needs to be destroyed. The GOP has brought this on themselves and I enjoy the pummeling they are receiving. The GOP is like a bus, you ride it to your destination and then get of of it. They are going the wrong way and I cheer if someone can force it into the ditch. They won't learn their lesson except by a vicious beating.
Posted by tscottme at August 24, 2015 12:21 AM
Everybody wants the GOP to die. Nobody wants Hilary. Trump comes along and furthers these goals.
What do you think will happen if Trump is elected?
Or is this a rationalization for all of us to vote the Dem in, no matter who it is?
Don't want him, nope.
Don't want her, uh uh.
Don't want them, no way.
Four more years of Democrat rule can't be all bad, can it?
How about Biden? With Warren?
Posted by chasmatic at August 24, 2015 6:35 AM
"Vote accordingly."
"Did Obama teach us nothing?"
"Cruz, my choice"
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Well there ya go, a cross section of the american mind.
Vacant, obsolete, programmed accordingly.
Everything is right on schedule as planned.
Posted by ghostsniper at August 24, 2015 7:12 AM
"Hunger with every new light." That's a good one. Condescending, but good.
I read all the articles that discredit Trump as a Conservative. Whoever said he was Conservative?
He is tearing down the GOP. OK, fine. He also takes some shots at the Dems.
Seems he has values that will appeal to Dems and also attract some Repubs that are fed up with their party.
Given the choices, who has a more desireable platform?
It will come down to negative choices: we don't want Hilary or Biden; we don't want any Repubs; there are nothing but lame candidates in either party.
When all is said and done do we really think that any choice we make will change things? The government will still be in charge.
Posted by chasmatic at August 24, 2015 10:23 AM
Fine with me, Chas. You might have said so in the first place.
Posted by james wilson at August 24, 2015 11:03 AM
I'm tired of mouthy Democrats and Republicans who promise us the world if we will put them if office then back off their promises, pay off their buddies who contributed to them and sell off America. If Trump can shut down the borders then give him a 10 million dollar bonus, add another 10 million or more if he can take Social Security benefits away from illegals. 10 million for starting to deport illegals in the tens of thousands. Another 10 million if he can persecute and jail those in Television and Press who deceived the stupid and helped put Obama in office. another 10 million if he can put three more Conservatives in the Supreme court. 10 million if he can put Obama in front of a court for treason. 10 million if he can do away with Obamy care. If he can do those things and more then a couple hundred million in Trumps pocket for doing these things could save the country trillions and more.
Posted by Kelvin at August 24, 2015 2:03 PM
Good idea Kelvin, but remember, Trump is already a billionaire so 10 mil here, 10 mil there is no inducement to him.
Remember also, you're talking about FREE MONEY here, at least that's what all the other politicians believe so why should it be any diff for trump?
Therefore, up the ante a bit to pique his interest and spur his enthusiasm. Add 4 or 5 zero's to all of the pay offs you mentioned.
Think of it this way. As a citizen you're supposedly already on the hook for 1/320,000,000th of the national debt and you know you're not gonna pay it cause you didn't spend it, so what's a few more trills added on top?
Posted by ghostsniper at August 24, 2015 6:48 PM
james,
You might have said so in the first place.
Sometimes I get to drifting, listening to the sound of my own voice.
I ought to heed the Cowboy's Advice: never pass up an opportunity to keep quiet.
Posted by chasmatic at August 25, 2015 2:07 AM
I could add a few zero's there ghostsniper. For Trump is the Charismatic and opportunist businessman at heart and people should be encouraged to do what they do best. And if he believes in the sanctity of the Constitution then all the better.
But then i may just be grasping at straws as i watch the country and my portfolio melt before my eyes.
Posted by Kelvin at August 25, 2015 5:56 AM
My plan:
Do away with federal Congress;
Let each state keep its current government structure;
the Congresspeople are to be elected by the people, and are held responsible for what actions they perform. A "no-confidence" election can be held any time the people get a quarum for one;
The state congress are the only people that deal with the Executive branch and, again, a "no-confidence" election can be held if the people and their congresspeople have a quarum for one;
All federal monies given to the states will be with no conditions attached and any state revenues will first be applied to the state budget,
An interpretation of States Rights will be the constitutional guideline for all the above. Keep government small and simple.
What do ya think of that, guys?
Posted by chasmatic at August 25, 2015 9:04 AM
My plan:
If that's what YOU want then you should have it.
I, however, will never willingly choose anyone to rule over me and will resist such things, with extreme violence if necessary, til the day I die.
Everybody already knows how every gov't structure always ends, so why is no gov't structure any worse?
A plain system in which everyone gets to negotiate with everyone else as they see fit.
Pretty much the way most of us already interact everyday, but with the absence of the monopoly on force.
The overbearing hand of irresponsibility, unaccountability, arrogance, apathy, and over the top violence as a default - why in the world would anyone want this?
Posted by ghostsniper at August 25, 2015 9:52 AM
OK ghost, I hear you, but I am confused as to how you would work your plan.
If you want to live your life not contributing to the common good while reaping benefits that are available to all, like taking and not giving back, please do so.
Maybe you can negotiate an agreement with the agencies that own the roads and other infrastructure.
You might make a deal so you don't have to give one dime to any government agency; understood is that you will not accept one dime from any government agency.
Pay full price for anything you purchase rather than enjoy the benefits of government subsidy.
What about folks that live in communities?
This plan does not require forced participation.
Posted by chasmatic at August 25, 2015 10:29 PM
OK ghost, I hear you, but I am confused as to how you would work your plan.
"My plan is to live my life as I see fit, not harming anyone nor accepting harm, and letting people alone as I expect from them."
If you want to live your life not contributing to the common good while reaping benefits that are available to all, like taking and not giving back, please do so.
"I reject anything with the words *common good* in it. I don't force others to buy my stuff nor will I accept that behavior from others."
Maybe you can negotiate an agreement with the agencies that own the roads and other infrastructure.
"I'm a lifelong business man Chas and I am fully capable of negotiating with anyone for anything I might require. I reject the notion that I must pay for stuff just because."
You might make a deal so you don't have to give one dime to any government agency; understood is that you will not accept one dime from any government agency.
"Deal!"
"I want only what I have earned."
Pay full price for anything you purchase rather than enjoy the benefits of government subsidy.
"But of course. The way most people lived prior to about a hundred years ago, you know, when things were a little more stable around here before people were forced under the barrel of a gun to provide for the *common good*."
What about folks that live in communities?
"Each person gets to run their life as they see fit, it is none of my business."
This plan does not require forced participation.
"I'm a strong advocate of non-forced participation."
Posted by ghostsniper at August 26, 2015 6:55 AM