No More Mr. Nice GOP Guy

Thanks Gerard.

Posted by Scott M at March 1, 2016 5:14 PM

Good job, Scott. Your tactical proposal reminds me exactly of how Breitbart acted in front of a camera. Then he mouthed the word: "War."

Another new tactic I am going to adopt is the one I saw recently where a right-thinking guy was being interviewed, and his rejoinders were to ask questions back. I thought it brilliant. We have to frame the argument, because the way the left frames issues is insane-making. Nobody cares about the environment or racism anymore. That boat has departed.

Carry On.

Posted by Casey Klahn at March 1, 2016 5:44 PM

Casey that is good. Asking questions is smart. It shifts burden and pressure to Lefty. Also recognize in the discussion, if anyone is listening they are the audience. You can't change Lefty's mind. The goal is to show others 1) you can challenge Lefties & live. 2)there are answers to Lefty attacks. 3)others are not all Left. "You are not alone" to other Conservatives within earshot.

I learned much by reading Christian Apologetics books, websites. Don't just have faith your views are true. Learn the proofs for your view and how to defend. Many Christians, Conservatives like Bubble Boy. Do well until they come in contact with a germ.

I will post a 1 hour video of Ben Shapiro giving 10 points to arguing with Leftists. Also Steve Deace has good book Rules For Patriots, a conservative version of Alynski. Never accept the Left's premise. Go on offense. Don't speak in indirect words & moderate language.

Link below in a moment.

Posted by Scott M at March 1, 2016 6:59 PM

Ben Shapiro Practical Tactics for arguing with The left. Shapiro & Deace have free podcasts in iTunes. Highly recommendBen Shapiro - Practical

Tactics For Fighting The …: https://youtu.be/sL3SQyK7H5E.

Posted by Scott M at March 1, 2016 7:01 PM

Got it. Thanks.

Posted by Casey Klahn at March 1, 2016 7:55 PM

As well as asking questions in return, it's always useful to employ "Active Listening," which I learned working in psychiatric hospitals. A middle-aged psych nurse with years of experience likened it to listening to the tune, not the words. What are they really trying to communicate?

The words of a leftie are designed to obfuscate, and if you respond in a logical fashion you've already lost. But what is behind the statement or question posed to you by a leftie? How often do you have the realization that there's only one possible answer, and that the only possible answer leaves you looking like an asshole? How about just changing the name of the game by asking in return "What is it that you hope to accomplish by asking loaded questions? Don't you realize that everyone here is listening to you try to run a game on me? Do you really think I'm going to help you back me into a corner by responding to your bullshit?"

Et cetera.

Do some reading about counseling training; being a shrink is all about hearing what's being said, and not being distracted by the rhetoric. I can pretty much guarantee you that this technique will inspire foaming at the mouth among "liberals."

Posted by Rob De Witt at March 1, 2016 10:36 PM

SJW: "racism!!!"

proper reponse: "turn around. Or do you want it in the face?"

argument won

Posted by Haxo Angmark at March 2, 2016 2:00 AM

Haxo is right, you really can't argue with these people.
I mean, what's your point?
Are you trying to change them?
You can't, haven't you learned that yet?

They argue from a non-sensical standpoint, your logic runs off their back like water off a dux ass.

Again, Haxo is right.
The only way to change a communist is through direct, and instant, over the top violence.
He has to understand that he is going to die right now....and then not.

Then, and only then, he MIGHT change. And he might not. This is the only method in all of history that has ever changed a communist.

They use the things you love against you.

It's coming, and it's going to be terrible, but mostly for them. At their base they are cowards and they are habitual liars.

You must either convert them, as above, or just kill them right off, there is no other way. If you do not they will kill you.

This goes against your heart and soul. But you must harden your heart and steel your soul. Your very life, and the lives of those you love depends on this.

Can you deal? Or will you roll?
Soon, you'll have no choice.
If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.

Posted by ghostsniper at March 2, 2016 7:09 PM

Ghostsniper: Agree. In our lifetimes the 'General Franco is Still Dead' jokes are going to leave a bad taste for the left.

The forks in the road where this could have been dodged or even gently Salazared are long in the past.

Posted by Kinch at March 2, 2016 8:08 PM

Thank you Rob. Good advice. I will look into that approach.

Why is it important to argue with Lefties? Because others around them gain from confronting Lefties. The goal is seldom to convert the Leftist but to give an example to anyone within earshot. Give yourself practice in challenging leftists. It also reinforces your confidence in your views. Most importantly, you have to shatter the illusion The Left is 10 feet tall & invincible. Not fighting back is surrender. Our ideas mean nothing if they influence nobody.

Posted by Scott M at March 3, 2016 1:31 AM

Back in the alt.impeach.clinton.whitewater newsgroup days, some 16-18 years past, I did as you described and actually did change 1 liberal, a guy named krow, and he thanked me for turning on the light. I'll never forget it.

But there have been thousands of times since where my words were wasted and now I see no more use in it. From here on out I go straight for the jugular and that's it. For a young buck like yourself, have at it, knock yourself out. Maybe you'll be successful where I failed over and over.

Posted by ghostsniper at March 3, 2016 12:44 PM

Always refute the generalities:
"Everyone knows that...."
"It's obvious that...."
"You must agree that..."

Stop that bullshit right in its tracks.

Posted by Galway Boy at March 8, 2016 7:36 PM