Pat Condell Speaks for Me and He's a Brit

spot on.

Posted by pdwalker at March 13, 2009 7:49 PM

Yes!Yes!Yes!Someone stand up over there!Yes!

Posted by Jerry at March 13, 2009 10:09 PM

To add to that, and it's difficult:

To the wearers of silly, scraggly beards that do this sort of thing - if this country is so awful, why are you still here? You know where the airport is. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out - and take all your vicious propaganda, your enormous broods of brats and your disgustingly cruel customs with you.

Of course, saying that sort of thing in public gets you pilloried in PC-land. Equally unfortunately, far too many Brits have succumbed to the taqqiya about Islam meaning "peace".

Posted by Fletcher Christian at March 14, 2009 12:50 AM

If we could defeat Islamic supremacist by pointing out how outrageously they act the war would already be won. The Muslims in these protests, or any other protest, already know we strongly disapprove of their actions. The truth is it may feel good to loudly complain that these barbarians are oh so very uncivilized, but nothing is changed. The Muslims aren't influenced to reform because we have an airtight case that they are behaving badly. They wouldn't be behaving badly if they were capable of being influenced by our opinions. Were the Nazis reformed because the Jews marching into the cattle cars thought the Nazis to be vulgar and heartless?

Nothing that happened at the protest or after the protest did anything to dissuade the next protest. Islam is at war with civilization and civilization is documenting the barbarity of the barbarians. We ought to be deporting everyone at the protest, if we want to be polite. If we recognize we have no obligation to be polite to those that are waging war against us, we could do more than start carefully crafted deportation hearings. Every day we allow the evil to remain in our midst we allow the evil to grow stronger. Deport them first to a place of our convenience and then start the legal proceedings, if we must.

I don't see the point of a vain attempt to earn brownie points from the fifth columnists in our midst and the actual enemy in our midst by some dainty attention to procedure. When they come to lop off your head it won't help you to point out the knife has not been properly washed.

Posted by Scott M at March 14, 2009 3:39 AM

Scott M, the problem is that the protesters are quite likely to be British citizens - and we still have freedom of speech in the UK, be the speech ever so loathsome, as long as the speech does not actually incite crime.

Kicking out each and every non-citizen Muslim living in the UK would be a good start. Along with stopping, right now, the practise of importing people from Pakistan (the main source here) to marry citizen muslims.

Posted by Fletcher Christian at March 14, 2009 7:54 AM

"Islam" has never meant peace. It has always meant "submission", and a Muslim is "one who submits". But the word Islam and the word for peace, Salaam, have the same three-letter root in Arabic, S-L-M. Some of the "useful idiots" may confuse the two, although the meanings are, as in English, quite different. That's as charitable as I'm willing to be. Most times, it's a smokescreen designed to prevent the typical American or Brit from learning what Islam is really about. And it's not about peace.

Posted by waltj at March 14, 2009 8:01 AM

Here in America we could definitely treat our veterans a little better though, or at least as well as the people who mistakenly bought a house with 300-400 square feet more than they could afford. . .

Posted by Bob W (the new Kowalsky) at March 14, 2009 9:17 AM

We Consitutional originalists note that the First Amendment is tempered buy the Second--a well regulated militia.

I'm not suggesting that the rag heads be shot. I am suggesting, though, that they might be persuaded to moderate their disgusting behavior if loyal citizens kicked their bloody asses--in an orderly and British fashion, of course. Surely the sons and daughters of the men and women who won the Battle of Britain will not tolerate this shit.

Posted by Old Dad at March 14, 2009 10:40 AM

Fletcher Christian, this is making my point. We, in the West, are more worried about playing by the rules than about the evil in our midst. The outcome of this pattern is either surrender to the barbarians in your own country or a revolution and violent anarchy. In Colombia, during it's war with the drug lords this led to shadow groups of former military and police called "el pepes" or "the people" waging vigilante war on drug lords, their family, and people doing business with them. How is that better than rounding up the Muslims at these vile protests and deporting them and letting the Muslims worry about how to get permission to re-enter the country.

These barbarians are using our laws and our procedures to take your country and our freedom from us. They have declared war on us and we are operating as if this is just a criminal matter with all the rights and procedures observed.

There is nothing that will work short of waging war in a warlike manner, not these limited wars where we pretend it's the governments of Muslim lands we are trying to destroy but pretending the people supporting the government are innocent bystanders.

How many protestors would there be at next weeks public meeting of Perpetual Outrage, Inc if those at last week's meeting were languishing in some Egyptian prison or held in a tent or ship near Diego Garcia.

We can congratulate ourselves on how careful we are when dealing with people that say they want to kill us and demonstrate a willingness to kill us, and were smart enough to get citizenship beforehand. I don't see what that does for us? Are there no treason laws anywhere? Is treason not a crime? Does a crime exist only once the knife has pierced your neck? Jihad is war, not civil disobedience. React like it's war, not a civil disturbance.

Posted by Scott M at March 14, 2009 1:15 PM

Jihadist take an allegiance to Islam over whatever non-Muslim country within they happen to reside. Use that as a figleaf to deport any troublemakers to a location of convenience.

Treat Muslims as you would have treated Nazi sabteurs in your midst during WWII. Muslims aren't giving any western nations credit for not deporting them because of some over-strict interpretation of law. The Muslims view our observance of civil liberties for them as a strategic weakness, and reward us with more contempt.

If we decide we won't infiltrate local Muslim communities to monitor them, deport them. Curtail their welfare benefits on any pretext necessary, use the law to our advantage, not theirs. Remember they have declared war on us. React like we favor one outcome over another in that war. Are the civil liberties types giving Western governments due credit for observance of these rights? Is our continuing to live less important than Muslims freedom to advocate murder of us? Gove the Muslims no more roomo and consideration in our countries than we give communists during the Cold War or Nazis during WWII.

Posted by Scott M at March 14, 2009 1:27 PM

Is Scott M a Moby? He sure sounds like one-- his "modest proposals" drawn from liberals' fevered imaginings & typical strawman caricatures of anti-Islamist conservatives.

Of course, I might be wrong; there are extremists on every side. But even as an example of an extremist, he just doesn't ring true.

Posted by danielle at March 14, 2009 8:19 PM

danielle,

Regarding Scott's post:

Islam is the enemy. Not parts of it. Not "fundamentalists". The silent majority of muslims world wide stand in silent acquiescence to the actions of the overt jihadists. They have chosen their vision of the future.

With respect, if there is still an infidel civilization a hundred years from now, it will exist only if we have fought and won WW4 with Islam OR we'll be congratulating ourselves on our wisdom in implementing exactly the steps described by Scott, and watching and waiting for the remaining muslim enclaves to consume themselves, and for the oil to run out in Saudi.

The demographics of resurgent Islam are not encouraging for the future of Western civ.

The West is behaving suicidaly, frankly. We continue to operate as if the rule is "stuff happens" while the enemy operates on "kill them all, and death in killing leads to paradise".

I am intrigued as to how or if the coming depression may change the decline we see today.

Interesting times.

Posted by TmjUtah at March 15, 2009 9:35 AM

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

Posted by crazy gran at March 15, 2009 11:50 PM

Kind of hard to be afraid of a bunch of poofters in house dresses who wear silly beanies on their heads. And these limpdicks look down on women?

Posted by Roderick Reilly at March 16, 2009 12:21 PM